What is it with the Cubs and their poor estimates of when players should return? Is it our trainer who could possibly be the worst trainer this planet has ever seen? Is he the cause of making injuries worse by not treating them and just applying the wait and see approach?
 
Now Am-Ram could be out for an extended period of time.
 

There were differing signals Thursday from the Cubs, who had hoped Ramirez would return last weekend in St. Louis. Then the hope became that he would play immediately after the All-Star break. Ramirez hasn't been placed on the disabled list, even though he hasn't played since early July because of a groin injury.

"Maybe tomorrow,'' manager Dusty Baker said.

Later, he suggested caution might delay Ramirez's comeback a little longer.

Yay, just what we need.