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Let me just re-post what Morris said.........

Morris said, "What's sad is that these clubs [the Cardinals and Astros] could go right to the end, battling and each team winding up winning three games while the Cubs could sneak in there unscathed. That wouldn't be fun.
"We've been battling way too long to expend our energy and then have the Cubs win."
Morris said, in fact, that if the Cardinals didn't win, he hoped Houston did. "I really have a respect for their players," Morris said. "When we compete against them, the games are intense but they don't have that, 'I want to kill you, I hate you' attitude. When it's over, it's easy to tip your hat to the other side.
"It's just the way they go about it and the way we go about it. There's professionalism involved."

Hmmm notice how Morris said if the Cardinals dont win it, he wants Houston to win it? Gee the Cardinals are already out of it, so why again would Morris want to pitch his best against the Astro's when they dont have a chance to win the division?

Now onto Redbird Nation....

imagine the Cubs Pundit retorting), it's not just the bad game alone. It's also Matt Morris' comments, where he said he wanted the Astros to beat the Cardinals. But is that what he said? If you read the news story, you'll find something different. Morris said he expected the Cards and Stros to battle it out, possibly even knocking each other out of contention. He also said that the Cardinals are the Astros' "intense" competitors, and that he wished the Astros would win the division, but only if the Cardinals did not. Does this sound like a guy who wants his team to lay down for the Astros? Of course not. The Cubs Pundit doesn't have any evidence to back up what he says, just a theory. Like alchemy or creationism.

This is getting to the point of shooting fish in a barrel. On Redbird nations own site he says on the 18th the Cards chances of winning the division dropped to 0.1%. They were toast, done, no chance of winning without a spectacular undefeated stretch run basically. This is before Morris started against the Astro's.

Ok so by time Matt Morris faced the Astro's the Cardinals were already finished for the season. They werent going to win the division. And in Redbirds own comments says, "Only if the Cardinals do not." Well the Cardinals werent going to win. So why would he pitch his best against the Astro's again?

YES it sounds like a guy who wants his team to lay down! The Cardinals gain nothing in winning. They arent going to win the division. You got the staff Ace saying i want the Astro's to win if we dont win. Cardinals werent going to win. So why not lay down? The Cardinals are gonna suck before the game and after the game.

I know its very hard to prove, almost impossible. But Matt Morris clearly said what he said. And he had no reason to pitch his best.

Oh well. If you're still not convinced, just check out today's game. Do teams that have rolled over go toe-to-toe with the division front-runners for 13 innings? Do they throw 7 shutout relief innings to one of the best lineups in the league? Do they bring their ace closer into a tie game? Do they hit walk-off homers and mob the hero at home plate afterwards? You already know the answer. Our team may have lost this year, but they haven't quit.

Yeah well did any of those guys in tonights game say they would rather the Astros win the division than the Cubs? I dont remember their starter or closer imply if his team didnt win they wanted the Astro's to win. Maybe some players dont want to quit, unlike Matt Morris.

But 1 win doesnt mean they havent quit. Since the Cubs took 4 of 5 they have quit. They have been in freefall mode. And the sad part is when the Cardinals quit they were only like 2 or 3 games out.

Also Redbird should know a few things about Mark Prior's comments. Yes we are winning but being 10+ games over .500 is no great accomplishment. This is not a WS championship caliber team. This team wasnt picked to win the division. Our time isnt now.

While we would love to make the playoffs i am sure Mark Prior is more concerned with fielding a better team in the long run than in the short run. Which is something i am very passionate about. If the Cubs make it GREAT. If not no biggie, we should be fielding an even better team next year. Like me, Mark Prior knows this team has alot of holes.

Redbird acts like we should be happy with one winning season. And Mark Prior is a fool for rooting for the Astros to win. Its a hell of alot more damaging to the Cardinals as a team to lose and lose bad than it is for the Astros to win the division over the Cubs. The Cardinals were the favorites, how damaging would it be to finish in 4th place for that team?

If the Cardinals completly fall to pieces they end up like the Pirates and Cincy. One less team in the playoff race for a few years. No more 3 way race. Prior knows this thing wont be decided in one season but in the next couple of years and decade. The Cardinals are on the brink of irrelevance, not the Cubs. Maybe the Astro's can push them off the edge. Only time will tell.